When: Friday 7th November till Monday 10 November 2008 - 3 day event with accomodation.

Where: Holbourn/Naish i.e. same venue as Conception.

Provisionally, that sounds rather good. It'd depend on price and so on. Also, are there discussions about combining it with Consequences?

Graham

Im not sure it will combine as the organiser is keen for Indiecon to have its own
identity

It'd be nice, but it's not like I've ever had the cash to attend a convention as an exhibitor before, and the cost of accommodation and travel will probably prevent me from attending as a delegate. Still, if I can scrape the money together over the next year I might consider having a small boothe somewhere.

Ash

I mean why not just have it in France?

Despite the Homer-esque epic journey needed to get from Newcastle to Dorset (the only reason I even know where Dorset is, is that we have just annexed it in Pendragon - remember kids, rpgs are edumacational too!) I'd love to attend.

Of course I'll want to attend Furnace as well and thats a lot nearer.

It does all sound very exciting though.

Neil

Costing should be minimal Conception which uses the same site and Consequences
are also dirt cheap (a lodge that sleeps 6 costs £250 for 5 days at conception)

Er, link for info?

Tim Gray
Silver Branch Games
www.silverbranch.co.uk

Dude, I'd be pushed to afford a £20 B&B for the two nights it'd require to attend the whole event :( and I've no idea how much train fare would cost.

Ash

Well, if it's viable at the time, I'd certainly like to attend. No doubts about that. I can't really plan a year in advance at the moment, but do consider my support given in whatever capacity it can be used.

Cheers
Malcolm

Contested Ground Studios

I'll try to collar Chris for a chat before Dragonmeet. That way I can hopefully give you guys a bit more info.

I'm interested! Even if it does fall on my birthday!

Naish is a fantastic site - I love Conception so an autumn Conception focused on the games I love is a must go!

I'd like to go but it is far far away from Scotland. It'll be just before my birthday!

Any airports close by?

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JoE
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Prince of Darkness Games
Rock N' Role-Play....

Yup Southampton and there's a train station right in the airport, from where you have a train journey of about 10mins to a local station and from there the venue is but a short taxi ride away.

Was looking at this option mesell earlier this year for Conception ,which is on the same site, since Manchester's a bit too far opp Norff for a comfortable train/bus/car journey.

Regards

;O)Newt
D101games -An Imaginary Company

Southampton Airport is about 5 minutes drive from my house. I don't mind acting as taximan for a couple of folks and can offer a certain amount of night-before-the-con crash space if one or two people are really keen.

IIRC Southampton Airport only hosts FlyBe flights. Which are cheap, but not the cheapest and considerably nicer to fly on than some budget airlines *cough* *ryanair* *cough*.

Dear all,

the main concept behind this is that indie publishers like ourselves get to run stacks of demos, play eachothers games and make the whole event affordable for all, so that players have a few quid left over to buy the games they have enjoyed. I do not wish the participation fee to financially mutilate gamers and make trade a waste of time.

The idea would be to assign a certain number of tables against "event credits", i.e if a publisher is running a demo or more per slot, then they get a fixed table for the whole event, if more events are run thenm additional table space will be made available.

I also wish to run a "Game Maracon", where players play multiple games of very different formats and each outcome has a consequence on the next game allowing for some real fun over the con itself and getting players to really try out loads of games. I can explain in more detail at Dragonmeet.

This is an open invitation to all members of this site and others as publishers. I will be at Dragonmeet to talk about this and you can get hold of me here: loizoudarkun@aol.com.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Chris

Creator of Cursed Empire and Sparta's 300

I see that some publishers are still tentitive about this, surely the UK's first
independant games convention should have every indie company in the country clamouring to join in
Ive heard rumours that this could pull in access of 200 attendees with the sole interest
of playing and buying new indie stuff.

I've not thought about this one at all, to be honest. November 2008 is a year away. I am looking forward to talking to Chris about it at Dragonmeet though.

As I'm developing the necessaries for a convention in 2009, I should probably watch what I say, but I can't resist being Devil's Advocate...

Just because someone's announced they're running a Con based on Indie gaming, it doesn't automatically mean that everyone involved wants to be involved, or will be. Where's your guess at 200 attendees come from?

I wish Chris every success, don't get me wrong, but I'd like to know what the Con offers, not only to draw the punters, but the indie game writers too. Collective Endeavour, as far as I can see with my myopic view, are the Indie scene in the UK - certainly convention wise and in terms of visibility. And I've seen at least some of them at just about every UK Con I've been to in the last couple of years.

So sell it to me Mick, what's going to make IndieCon different, why will it succeed and what's the draw? (I hope that it is, does and gets 300).

Gaz

Gaz,

Indie is, at best, a nebulous term. IndieCon is not the perfect name for it, but it's catchy and I think kinda cool. It's really aimed at "Small(er) Press Publishers". So anyone who's not Games Workshop, WotC or Mongoose as far as I can tell.

There are a whole bunch of people publishing stuff in the UK. Corperation might be a shiny hardback, but it's published by, like, 3 blokes in Scotland. So definitely small press. There's people like Ramlar, which while looking like a pretty typical RPG is again produced and published by 3 blokes in a bedroom office. And I'm sure there are a bunch of guys I've never heard of. Chris' Cursed Empire and Sparta's 300 games also firmly fit: Big ass glossy book with a ton of artwork, but the company's it's still him operating out of his spare room.

That's who it's aimed at, publisher wise.

For the punters there are a few things going on. It's a great site (the same one as Conception). It's a tabletop RPG con with no Living Whatever games. You'll probably get to see a lot of stuff you've never seen before. You'll get to play stuff you've probably never played before. You can talk to the people who create this stuff and see if they're tosser or not*. If you want, you can get involved in the development of new stuff and playtest people's games-in-development. But more to the point, you get a kick arse con at a great venue.

I think 200 is pretty realistic given the location. It's easy to get to from the whole south including London. the Pompey crowd are probably 30 - 50 on theior own and they are, to put it mildly, extremely enthusiastic and well up for this type of thing.

With the right direction and the right people getting behind this, I think it's going to be really successful.

* Obviously none of them are ;)

As stated by Rich above the indie scene is waaaaayyyyy bigger than the collective endevour!!!
As for figures well my club alone could and probably will bring around 20-30 thats without all next years recruits, The Cursed Empire following will probably be 30+ . The fact that its Naish will bring 30-40
so thats with no or little advertising and before word of mouth kicks in

As with most of these things, it'll probably end up being a question of attaining critical mass. If everyone goes, it'll be worth going to. If not, it won't.

I do have a good feeling about IndieCon. I like the idea of meeting not just Forge-style indie publishers, but also Pelgrane Press (who make the Gumshoe games we all know and love), Marcus Rowland, the publishers of Corporation, Cursed Empire, etc, etc. Not saying those people are necessarily coming, but I hope they are, and I like the idea they're all there.

Personally, I find the idea exciting, and I think (if you don't mind me saying) it's the sort of thing the Collective Endeavour should be about.

Graham

Ok around 7 months to go, are any of the publishers here commiting to attend?

I believe so Mick, but I'm still talking with Chris about it. I'm sure we'll post up here when we know who's in and what we're doing.

I'll have to talk to Gregor about it :)

http://www.solipsist-rpg.com/

I think I'm going. I think I wrote that somewhere on a forum or it might have been in an e-mail.

Anyway, when Chris has it finalized and whatever then I'm pretty sure I'll be there.

But, seriously, it's ages away isn't it?

You don't know the way Victoria plans our holidays! She'd be looking to book flights already :)

http://www.solipsist-rpg.com/

...but broadly interested.

Graham

It might be on my birthday, but I'm fairly certain I'll be there. The venue is great (the same as Conception), so it'll be hard to go wrong.

I missed this the first time that the thread was doing the rounds. I don't know whether I'll be able to attend (way too far in advance to say for certain) but I'm definitely interested. Conception is one of my all time favourite cons so having an indie-focussed event at the same place sounds good to me!

~Geoff

Dread Fuzzy Blog

I still have no money :( barring miracles, I don't think I'll be able to afford the travel costs.

Ash